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Stan Sylvester's avatar

"If my sons did not want war, there would be none." Gutle Schaper, wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, mother of his 5 sons.

Continuing the family heritage?

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Andreas's avatar

When warheads rain down on Dimona, the score will finally start to be settled.

Would be a small slice of justice against the terrorists from Tel Aviv.

Naked aggression, funded, supported, and shielded by the USA et al.

Again.

Sickening stuff.

Peace.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Didn't the same thing happen with Saddam? He had nukes he had weapons of mass distraction! Turned out after the country was ruined, he did not. And let us not forget, he was installed by the US as far as I read. IMO Israel should not exist at all. It was another country with people in it and was given to what I would consider invaders. Imagine, that the Venezolan gangs would be given California. Oh wait, that might be a solution !

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The Underdog's avatar

Very good mention, Iraq did indeed have nuclear reactors which Israel bombed unprovoked back in the 80s. Then years later we had the US go in to finish off Saddam on the made-up pre-text of nuclear weapons ('WMDs') which turned out to be complete horseshit.

The UK's portion of the war was spearheaded by Tony Blair -- who is in Epstein's black book records: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/jeffrey-epstein-high-society-contacts.html

This is the same Tony Blair that Nigel Farage promoted as "vaccine tzar":

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/nigel-farage-calls-for-tony-blair-to-become-uks-vaccination-tsar-215370/

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Velic's avatar

As the success of genocide is seemingly only beneficial to thoes nation's that best alude blame and scream with righteousness the loudest whilst hiding behind nothing of real human value....

Your last statement being the order of the day .....

Madness being the one thing we always get right....

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Awaken The Lions In Truth's avatar

Judgment Day is very near for all nations - especially atheist Israel. Israel has in the past and in the future, will receive double for all her sins. Little do they know they will be totally blessed in the final end, but not as we see them right now - only a very small remnant of Israel loyal to the very Jewish yet heavenly Messiah will remain and rule a according to His Word. The present genocidal secular Israel will be cast off into eternal darkness with endless weeping and gnashing of teeth.

The lies perpetrated by forever lying Israel and America about Iran as well as the factual nuclear powers Israel, India, Pakistan and North Korea go unchecked and unchallenged to this day.

Iran is truly an underdog here, as your namesake [Underdog]... this all will not end well. Iran is not innocent but this essay is very well written covering all the salient points. Iran probaby will fall too, simply because the gang of Israel and America doesn't like them.

Let us too, never forget, that these are 99% American bombs, bullets and missiles being used daily on Israel's 'enemies' and their mass genocides.

Netanyahu supposedly said "We will bleed America dry and it will blow away in the wind." Stupid BB; a good parasite never kills off its host.

Thank you, Underdog.

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Sage's avatar

You ever been to Israel? I have.

You ever been to the West Bank? I have.

You ever been to Gaza? Me neither, but I've spent months in the West Bank, visiting multiple villages and refugee camps, talking with many people from many backgrounds, including those from PLO and PFLP, and those in charge of education in Palestine.

Read what Hamas say in their Constitution. Read what the Quran says about killing Jews and Christians.

Unless you're irredeemably antisemitic, you'll learn more and gain a deeper understanding of what's going on.

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The Underdog's avatar

Ah, yes, when caught in the middle of genocide, no amount of evidence suffices, and immediately the words 'antisemitic' dribbles out. Is 'antisemitism' the new word for anti-genocide, pray tell? Who could gain access to Gaza with Israel's psychopaths blockading anyone from gaining entry? Obviously you couldn't, and I'm guessing you must live there, hence the bias.

Alas, Hamas, oh Hamas - I'm surprised you didn't accuse me of being one, or a sympathiser! Those people you whine about were created and financed by Netanyahu. You ought to have read about The Daily Beagle covering that back in November of 2023:

https://thedailybeagle.substack.com/p/the-side-of-the-israeli-gaza-war

In order to sympathise with Hamas I would have to endorse their financiers!

And how quick are the Israelis to deflect! The genocide can't be happening because... Islam exists. What?

As for the Quran? Read it end-to-end. The Bible... and the Talmud. Can you explain to me why the Talmud mentions treating certain members of the human race like cattle? Relations with children? Tell me, what does the word "goy" mean? The Talmud mentions it a lot.

Quran is a dusty old book. Are you using a centuries old book to justify your genocides right now? You talk about antiquated concepts, I talk about current day murders. The only way you could be upset at the writings of the Quran is if you thought they were real. If they are, why condemn the Islamists? And if they aren't real, why is that overriding your judgement on an actual genocide?

Call me whatever petty names you want, but it won't wash the blood out of your hands. I haven't "visited" the West Bank because I only recognise Palestine, and not some arbitrary genocide reservation the Israelis have set up.

How many starving children did you feed?

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Sage's avatar

Of course (before the current conflict) you could have gained entry to Gaza if you wished. It has luxury 5 star hotels. What are they there for except for tourists? Gaza has had no Israelis in it for years. They have had more refugee money than any other country. They could have built a beautiful successful Singapore on the Mediterranean. Instead, they built tunnels. It's desperately sad.

Yes, Netanyahu has indeed funded Hamas. Deeply stupid and perverted. He also forced the Israelis to take Pfizer jabs. No-one here wins.

Gaza, as you know, has a border with Egypt, but the Egyptians aren't welcoming any Palestinians into Egypt, because they saw what happened to Jordan (Black September) and to Lebanon (civil war).

The holy book of the Jewish religion is the Tanakh, which includes the Torah but doesn't include the Talmud. The Talmud are commentaries, more like Islamic hadiths. Have a look at some hadiths, and also fatwa (rulings).

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The Underdog's avatar

" you could have gained entry to Gaza if you wished"

Not really. Israel's checkpoints dictate movement.

" Gaza has had no Israelis in it for years"

That's because the Israelis live in the occupied Palestinian lands and reclassified it into something else.

" It has luxury 5 star hotels"

Not after your genocidal bombing campaign they don't.

"Yes, Netanyahu has indeed funded Hamas. Deeply stupid and perverted. He also forced the Israelis to take Pfizer jabs. No-one here wins."

If you knew that, then why did you bring up Hamas as if it was any sort of rebuttal? No-one wins here. The Palestinians especially so. Didn't they reject the mRNA shots? So now you mandate a different type of shot?

"Gaza, as you know, has a border with Egypt, but the Egyptians aren't welcoming any Palestinians into Egypt"

Seems I know more than you do on border geography. I strongly suggest you read the article where bloodthirsty zionists call for killing children - Israel blockaded that route between Gaza and Egypt ages ago.

"The holy book of the Jewish religion is the Tanakh, which includes the Torah but doesn't include the Talmud."

Oh, so why does the EU mention having "Talmudic values" when supporting Israel?

"The Talmud are commentaries"

Evil, bastardised commentaries.

"Have a look at some hadiths, and also fatwa (rulings). "

The sheer arrogance of the zionist in acting like nobody reads other religious books. I read those, familiar with the concept of the Dajjal too.

Doesn't excuse your genocide. Is that the best you've got? I'm an "irredeemable antisemite" (since when did you get to decide if anyone is redeemable?) and Gaza might have had 5 star hotels.

They also had Christian churches. Until you bombed them.

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Gayla's avatar

Maybe you should read the Talmud. I guess you are aware that jews are taught to kill the non-jew, especially Christians. Pot-kettle-black?

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Sage's avatar

Read the Torah and the Tanakh (the Bible). The Talmud is simply commentaries by people ON the Torah and the Tanakh, just as there are hate-filled commentaries (regrettably) ON the Bible etc.

The reason I mention the Quean is because it is filled with hatred and violence against Jews and Christians (and women and gays) specifically, which is extremely relevant to the entire situation in the Middle East (and now the Western world too).

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The Underdog's avatar

Judaism does not believe that Jesus is the Messiah.

Trying to larp as a Christian does not wash when your IDF kills Christians with the organisations you back. You bombed Christian churches within Palestine, your HTS-backed headchoppers have executed numerous Christians within Syria, and you have the cheek to try to act like your perverted, pro-genocide religion has any say in morality?

Disgusting.

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Gayla's avatar

If you have read all those "devine jewish teachings", then you can tell me why the number, "6 million dead jews" is so important to the jews. After all, the newspaper headlines stated during the severe winter in Europe with the "flu pandemic of 1918" that 6 million jews had succumb to the flu. Then, roughly 25 years later, 6 million jews were killed by the nazis. 12 million jews in 25 years is questionable, but let's put that aside. Why is it always 6 million jews dead? Yes, there is a reason they always state 6 million. Would you like to enlighten the others? After all, you are the one who claims to be a scholar in the Tanakh, (and the Quran). Or, are you just someone who likes to post in comments and pretend that Muslims are evil, and jews are to be held harmless? Hypocrisy. And again I say, Pot-kettle-black.

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Velic's avatar

Fuck me what the hell is going on this is so insane 😳 my ideal is just Nuke Israel and all the fucken jews let's start again this is bulshit for fck sake....

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The Underdog's avatar

There's less drastic, more peaceful options.

The American public could constantly hound the absolute shit out of their Representatives and Senators (daily calls, constant letters, non-stop following them and protesting them where-ever they go, refusal of services rendered, etc until they break down and give in; making accepting the AIPAC money not worth it for the sleepless nights and endless hounding) until they pass a bill embargoing any shipments of weapons to Israel, not only on the grounds of this unprovoked attack, but on genocide.

With no weapons they will not have the capacity to kill. It is solely via US manufacturing weapons for Israel - I've seen figures claimed as high as 90% of all weapons in Israel come from America - that they have any capacity to riddle this many civilians with bullets and bombs. Withdrawal of all financial aid would go a long way, and European countries ought to have already done this; the sheer irony of the existence of the European Court of Human Rights as the European Union does nothing as human rights are violated.

The US already has the legal impetus; Israel has refused to sign the NPT and they own nuclear weapons, in violation of the US' Section 102(b) of the Arms Export Control Act (AECA) which demands sanctions on said countries.

With no weapons they won't be able to shoot their way through endless numbers of civilians and would be forced to actually do meaningful peaceful negotiations.

I fully understand people's want to retaliate, and recognise that Iran has a right to defend itself from violent attacks. We do not, as a collective species, have to stoop to genocide to prevent a genocide from happening. The real flaw is numerous countries leaders are completely bereft of morality and keep shipping supplies fuelling this genocide.

Until the public make the corrupt government officials' lives extremely unpleasant (think sleepless nights, zero quiet vacation days, not a moment's peace, airhorns, shouts and jeers where-ever they call, callouts, extending the same to family members who don't condemn this action etc), we will only see a continuation of this madness.

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Gayla's avatar

The minute a representative decided to withhold weapons and support to Israel, they will be called “anti-Semitic”, and have someone from their high school or college days show up and accuse them of sexual abuse, or they will be accused of being involved in child pornography, or something similar. Those in D.C. are owned by the zionists. All of them.

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The Underdog's avatar

Thomas Massie still has his balls, but as for the others? A lot of compromat.

I'm apparently on the verge of becoming an "irredeemable antisemite". Who redeems antisemites? Dunno, but I don't care what makes them boo, because I've seen the monstrosities that make them cheer.

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Bob - Enough's avatar

No you are not. Like they changed the definition of a vaccine to meet their agenda, they changed the TRUE definition of a Semite and anti-Semite.

"Semite, obsolete term, popularized in the 19th century, that originally described a member of any people who speak one of the Semitic languages, a family of languages that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, Aramaic, and Tigrinya, among others. The term was later used in an ethnic sense, even though there has never been a shared Semitic identity among Semitic-speaking peoples. When used in that sense, Semite often referred specifically to people of Jewish origin, regardless of what language they spoke, a reflection of the antisemitism that was concurrent in 19th-century Europe.

You, like me, maybe becoming an anti-Zionist.

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Gayla's avatar

If he becomes a real issue, he will be "neutralized". (Don't you love the CIA's word for "assassinated"? It sounds so much nicer than "murdered".)

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The Underdog's avatar

Well, his wife's dead and various zionist pundits rubbed his nose in it. Make of it what you will. He never disclosed how she died, either, which was strange.

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Velic's avatar

And in essence of that realization, I shall do so.....

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mejbcart's avatar

whatever the truth is, it looks like a suicide of the country of 'chosen people'. Btw. God's chosen people NEVER KILL!!!

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Velic's avatar

The Jews are "filthy fkn Parasites" " Scourge of humanity" there only goal destruction and control of anything & anyone that isn't Jewish......

The Reich exposed you once before and now the spirt of The Führer rises again, you filthy sub human skum will be Cleansed from every corner of the globe 🌎 👈

Ein Volk Ein Reich Ein Führer.

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The Underdog's avatar

Velic, my man, I recognise you're angry at what they're doing, but sponsoring one genocide to counter another is not the way forward.

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Velic's avatar

"the law's ambivalence about the importance of a victim's identity" ? i guess that's the human condition.

Is there a definitive answer 🤔

Or are we just so caught up in our own ignorance that even in receipt of that answer we would lak the courage to do the right thing anyway. As Eckhart Tolle has said, man's ego is his only master and he legitimises it at will.

Personally this toing frowing of good guys bad guys, who's a good jew who's a bad jew a colonizer a black a Muslim a Christian, problems that have plagued us since mans communal existence, know one comes to any conclusions and as always there's only more chaos….

Please don't mistake my disgust in humanity as anger its nothing more than a manifestation of my surroundings.

I'm not throwing my hands in the air I'm simply excepting something that know one here can dispute and if they tryed it would merely prove my original point 👉

Tolle quoted…..

Unless man excepts this realization & changes his consciousness his next mass extinction will arrive at speed.

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Sage's avatar

Underdog, you comfortable with this comment?

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The Underdog's avatar

Personally, no. As I've already said before, genocide in response to genocide is not the answer.

Such Israel's atrocities against children, his remarks are not unique, I have seen a lot of comment sections echoing the same sentiment as of late. Various remarks saying 'Hitler was a zionist' or 'Hitler was right'. I don't endorse a genocide in response to a genocide, as it undercuts opposition to genocide.

The problem is, as I was discussing with family members, Israel's genocide of children has gone so far they're making Hitler, Stalin and Mao look good in comparison. That is not a path anyone should be going down. Even now I hear comments where people remark 'well at least the Nazis didn't bomb hospitals full of children' or 'at least Stalin only killed his own people'. Selective choices, but that is what Israel is being compared to. It's in the same leagues as Pol Pot and Mao's great Chinese famine.

And the best way to prevent the comparisons?

Stop committing genocide. Hell, proactively oppose the genocide. At least one of the owners of Ben & Jerries (a firm I know full well is Jewish) went to US Congress to protest the genocide and got arrested for it, he stood up for principles.

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/ben-and-jerrys-co-founder-arrested-after-palestine-protest-at-congressional-hearing/

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Velic's avatar

I'm not here to give comfortable comments or the heading would have said comfortable comments only.

Political and religious wars never end well, as if a war ever ends well….👈

Are we here to discuss a war that's been going on for a hundred years 🤔 are there any good guys or at least ones we are prepared to justify as good ?

At 62 & up until recently German history has been portrayed as nothing more than an orchestrated litany of lies deception and poisoned holahoax propaganda at the expense of a great nation and a great leader.

So tell me what nation's including the United States can claim to be innocent of genocide……

People tend always to incriminate themselves mostly not by what they say but what they don't say.

I don't condone genocide and I don't condone thoes that kill thoes that suspect others of it,because that's all this is.

I was educated as a child to believe Germany 🇩🇪 was the axis of evil later i discovered that the individuals Trumpeting that were despicable liars with an unnatural religious agenda,

The talmud & Koran of which are nothing more than an abomination.

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The Underdog's avatar

We must be careful not to be polarised to an extreme stance, because the pitfalls of the 'Appeal to Adversity' fallacy lie that way. The classic of 'your enemy breathes oxygen, you should spite them by holding your breath!' applies, and it is best to distance yourself from any political or religious ideology; other issues like the Milgram experiment ('appeal to authority') and groupthink (Robbers cave) lie in those areas.

It is good you oppose genocide, that's what all folks should be opposed to, conscience however does not have a political or religious party: it exists in all people.

I'd like you to take a step back, read up on the Haavara agreement, and let me know what your thoughts are. Knowing the flaws of man, and the flaws of myself, I hold no politician nor leader in high esteem.

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Velic's avatar

Let’s reiterate a few undeniable facts.

Facts which some seem to lack the personal fortitude or courage to speak much less admit.

First it is the Jews who are committing Genocide.

Israel is a state of the Jews. The Nation State law passed by Israel makes this perfectly clear.

The Supremacist state has been murdering, stealing, torturing, sodomizing, terrorizing the Palestinians for almost 80 years.

Prior to Oct 7th, with the exception of a very few Jews with a conscience, most Jews supported Israel,…visited Israel,….went on birth right tours to Israel …or made Aliyah.

Many supported and still support AIPAC or other Jewish Pacs, and many are followers of Chabad.

The Jewish supremacist state is supported by the Christian Zionists, aka the useful idiots.

They provide monetary support as well as political cover for the on going war crimes and crimes against humanity that the Jews have been committing against the Palestinians for the past 80 years.

The Christian Zionists provide the necessary interference so the Jews are not held accountable.

Indeed our entire government has been subverted by the Jews, AIPAC…and our current so called president took a 100 million dollars from a Jewish donor, aka A bribe.

However it is the Jews who are doing the killing.

The Anti Semitism charge has been ramped up by the ADL and other Jewish supremacist organizations.

Our justice department is also compromised. We now have two Israeli anti semitism czars to try and silence any resistance to the Jews.

Our Main stream Media which is controlled by Jews, go to great lengths to avoid the truth and work overtime pushing the lies aka Hasbara.

The goal is to silence anyone who doesn’t support the Genocide and Ethnic cleansing.

Which as we all know is part of Oded Yinons plan for Greater Israel aka Operation Clean Break which was introduced by the Jewish organization PNAC.

Iran is the last man standing in that plan.

The Jews with the help of the USA have destroyed or overthrew the other 6 governments targeted in this plan, …Syria, Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Somalia, and Sudan …

It is obviously extremely important that we are able to identify who the enemy is otherwise we will never be able to win the war.

The enemy is the Jews….

It may not be every Jew…but it most certainly is the Jews. Once again.

So when you hear those who try to muddy the waters or even suggest that by saying such a thing means that you are an “anti semite”, remember this, there is no bigger anti semite than the Jew and his genocide.

It’s time to break the Jew taboo.

For good.

Please share far and wide

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The Underdog's avatar

Again, I recognise and have even reported on Israeli's genocide of the Palestinians, as well as the infiltration of AIPAC into US Congress, and have made efforts to further expose this, even to the point of being called an "irredeemable antisemite", however, I must reject generalised tarbrushing.

For example, the group Jewish Voice for Peace were the earliest group to make me aware of Israel's genocidal campaign. Ben & Jerry's - which is Jewish owned - refused to sell to Israeli settler colonies (to the point of tanking huge financial losses and the CEO being ousted by Unilever, see: https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephaniegravalese/2025/03/20/ben--jerrys-ceo-fired-what-it-means-for-activist-food-culture/). Ben Cohen, the co-founder, even physically protested in US Congress; which is a lot more than can be said of most Americans currently watching their taxes being stolen.

You say Jews, I narrow my distinction to Zionists. You might say all Zionists are Jews - and the majority would be, I would argue some are even compromat politicians like Joe Biden, so even non-Jews fall under this umbrella term.

But not all Jews are Zionist. Zionism refers to the term 'stronghold' (Zion literally means 'stronghold') and it demands military conquest and the eradication of one's enemies. The forceful implementation of Israel. Literally everything you've described as bad, has been a policy of Zionism.

Which Jews aren't Zionist? Sephardic Jews, for one, and they hold the belief you would actually expect Jews to hold: they believe Israel can only be reconstituted by God. No man-made military or endless tax theft or violence can bring it back unless God orders it so, they argue, and no military nor money is required to bring it back if God orders it so. (These are the ones that comprise many of the pro-peace, anti-war groups you see)

The Third Reich of which you refer to, wasn't anti-Zionist; that's why they helped the Jews set up their starting colony in Israel under the Haavara agreement. I often find a lot of National Socialists trip when I ask them this: if the Holocaust is real, why would a good person kill children? And if the Holocaust is fake, why would you act like the Third Reich exterminated Jews? If one is skeptical of the holocaust, wouldn't one conclude it was a false flag to act as the establishment of Israel? This is why I suggested some time out to think about the implications of the Haavara agreement.

I know I won't dissuade you of your ideas overnight, so I offer to lead by example: I don't believe in killing indiscriminately any group because that isn't how justice is formed. Children by default are innocent, and if you read the last part of this article, horrific things are happening to them. Let people be judged and punished according to the crimes they have actually committed, not as to who they are. Genocide, by anybody, against anybody, will always be wrong; injustice ignores innocence and kills indiscriminately.

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Velic's avatar

I understand things are not always as they seem and the Haavara agreement contains information I'm still analyzing as we speak, there are as you can understand always distortions & contradictions at every turn and not necessarily regarding the said agreement.

I sometimes wonder that 🤔 if we are able to find any truth at all it is only contained within our behavior to date.

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https://substack.com/@whiterabbit/note/p-166038783?r=2o2o4

Not the only Corruptors just the best at it…..

What power wants to be in control and why do I care….

Maybe !! I don't want to be controlled ?

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I had previously read articles about the Unilever company and ben & Jerry's continued saga...

Using the only analysis this Delusional Sycophantic Egoic religious mindset deserves.....

One obvious observation literally explodes into view, why is it that extremism is added to a tub of fkn ice cream 🍦 🤔 and why is it tolerated being a prerequisite for a company's business relationship with the end result being control of the public mindset and we hope you like our ice 🧊 cream 😀

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Can you reply to this comment and confirm you're not a bot?

Your like history seems to suggest you upvote anything with the keyword 'Zionist', whether it is critical of zionists or not, which is strange for a post that is bragging about Israel attacking Iran unprovoked.

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"Now is Israel an honest broker"

No they aren't. Did you not read the article? (Obviously not). Their entire nuclear program is secretive, they have not signed up to the NPT, and I did not include the fact Israel *stole* US nuclear secrets ala Jonathan Pollard from the US, and illegal acquired Uranium Yellowcake from Argentina.

"they have an opaque nuclear program"

See above. Pure hypocrisy.

"within a country that is awash in conventional energy?"

So what if they have oil? Oil isn't infinite. It's an exportable resource. Why burn up an exportable resource if you can use nuclear power? The US is awash in oil and gas reserves but they have over 133 nuclear reactors. If they used oil, I bet you'd bitch it was burning up CO2 and a violation of climate change. What kind of bullshit talking point is this?

"building delivery systems that can deliver a nuclear warhead?"

It is clear you just came here to copy-paste from a script and didn't read a single part of the article. If they had nukes - they would have already used them. Bombing a nuclear reactor is an act of nuclear war. So either they're showing incredible restraint - showing israeli lies like yours are full of shit - or they don't have nukes to fire.

And who says you have the right to deny people the ownership of weapons?

"it’s a matter of self preservation"

Pure bullshit from a genocidal nation state that attacked unprovoked.

"how does one respond when all you hear from a historical bad actor that they want you removed from the face of the earth?"

You're the ones who bombed them first!

"That regularly attacks you via proxy"

Israel financed Hamas, HTS, and ISIS! Pure hypocrisy!

" If you’re going to be critical of Israel one should be really PO’ed that they have set the stage for a possible holocaust within the region and the possible destruction of Israel itself."

I'm supposed to feel sad that a genocidal country that endlessly bombed other countries might have provoked enough hostilities to get itself destroyed? Should I feel bad for Nazi Germany doing the same?

"What am I missing? "

The entire article that literally refutes every part of your regurgitated mossad script. I don't have time for spammers. Begone.

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