When news of this crash came out it was reported on alternative media that a couple of the doctors on board were whistleblowers and were on their way to report their findings about Pfizer’s death jabs…if, as you are reporting, this crash occurred because the pilot was deliberately causing the spin, it begs the question of what did *they* have on the pilot or was the threat of the death of his family the motivation for his suicidal behavior. So many dead whistleblowers, so many Elite murderers…
I did ask myself motive, or intent. There was one former military guy on board, Miguel Arcanjo Rodridues Junior, but that isn't enough by itself.
There's a lot of things... odd about this plane crash. Why so many medical personnel? Why aren't the blackbox recordings public? Why would a pilot with 10 years worth of experience make a rookie mistake and then make a full developed spin worse? Why was a lawyer who helped passengers against airline companies onboard?
There was more I wanted to cover, but I couldn't streamline it within the article.
Remote controlled aircraft (as in, fully fledged aircraft) have been around since as early as the 1960s (see 'Operation Northwoods' for a prime example).
It is also well known hackers can hack planes and control them using nothing more than a smartphone:
However it would be extremely difficult to use a smartphone from the ground against a flying plane, due to the range (17,000ft + horizontal distance) and speed (147 miles+) of the craft. You'd be most likely out of signal range, so if that was how it was performed, you're looking at dedicated broadcasting equipment.
Unfortunately, there isn't any way for me to prove it was remote controlled or hijacked, just short of obtaining the black box recordings with the pilot saying something like 'the plane is ignoring my controls' or something.
Cheers, that's very helpful information. Incidentally I read, that a whistleblower chemtrail pilot said, that most of the poison-planes are actually remote controlled and Flyer without any crew. There is a Video of him I haven't had the time to watch yet, I will look for the link.
Nice write up Underdog. One thing that I have noted is that I am unable to find a record of that conference, which is highly irregular. Usually there would be a conference website and some documentation online (program, registration etc). In addition, the make up of the people that were on that plane is not of the same make up as you would expect for a cancer conference. No senior cancer doctors and the only senior doctor was a paediatrician. For an ovarian cancer conference that would make no sense.
Whilst I could confirm AstraZeneca do operate in Curitiba, like yourself I could not find evidence of the conference. From what little I could piece together, the information was only sent out via email, so you would have needed to have been on the recipient's list.
I had thought about emailing him but I found most folks in Brazil do not respond to folks who don't speak Portuguese. I'm also not sure if he'd divulge anything. He has an email address but I did not submit any inquiries.
I'll see if I can email him next week, but I'm skeptical of the benefit.
I'm not sure he'd reply to lil' ol' me, my email reach rate is pretty bad. I wouldn't know what (or how) to ask him - "demanding" proof the conference exists seems pretty confrontational, and if I ask informally he'd likely only repeat what he's already told other media outlets, which isn't much benefit from a journalistic standpoint ('after all, don't you trust a highly qualified oncologist to tell the truth?').
My other thoughts are, asking for proof implies suspicion, and he may feel spooked instead. And if he was willing to attend an AstraZeneca conference, I'm not sure he'd be on our side of the debate. I can't just go 'oh hi, I'm here to investigate AstraZeneca who've probably paid you and/or treated you well, do you have any documents I could use to expose them?'.
TL;DR: I don't know how to justify the demand for proof the conference existed without basically getting the door shut in my face.
No just ask if there are any more details about the conference as you're a journalist looking into the situation and have been unable to find those details.
If antiice fails and you do nothing the ice builds gradually and you need to feed in more and more power to maintain airspeed. Eventually you cannot add any more and start descending or mushing, and the stall speed goes up. You would know something has gone wrong as you cannot maintain level flight.
I've done dozens of glider spins & stalls, and real world light aircraft stalls. They do regular simulator drills. Most stable aircraft will take themselves out of a spin just by letting go of all the controls.
They may have got disoriented & panicked, but it looks more like mechanical failure. It almost looked like a flat spin, very weird.
I intentionally gave the pilot the benefit of the doubt by assuming there was no automatic rectification. In the Norway accident, the anti-icing systems didn't work, and in the ATR icing paper I provided, it states the de-icing system isn't sufficient to prevent or address 'glaze icing'.
That said, if the pilot had simply called ATC, declared an issue/emergency, and announced they were dropping to 14,000ft, the ice would have melted. I think there's supposed to be a checklist rule that when you're losing speed when you shouldn't be, you're supposed to find the reason why before you take any preventative actions.
"looks more like mechanical failure"
I considered some possibilities. So the most absurd was a missile strike on the engine; but in the video none of the engines are on fire or smoking. Other variations included explosives, but again, the hull *seems* intact in the videos. Not included in the article was an image from an elderly couple on the plane minutes prior; they don't look panicked and everything seems normal.
I also considered 'icing freeze' on say, the tail rudder, but if you check the icing notes, ice builds up at the front of the craft, not the back. Even if that occurred, it still wouldn't explain the stall that led to it. There's two key failures: the sudden pitch up, and the lack of a rudder exit on spin.
I couldn't find any visual information for flat spins, but from what I understand (I could be mistaken, I don't fly), they only occur if the pilot does literally the opposite of what's required to get out of a fully developed spin. Getting there still requires a stall.
A note to US military shills who are pretending not to be pilots: if you're going to shill it is a plane accident, actually read the article first, given I've already refuted a number of blatant lies.
Claiming the anti-icing system failing would have crashed the plane is false: I cited an anti-icing incident with similar flight ceiling characteristics with the same plane model in Norway (which is a very cold place) and *that plane did not crash*. No stall, no fully developed spin, no crash.
I appreciate the US military are at least confirming their involvement in this incident if they feel that strongly about shilling that it is an accident. That said, shills that peddle bullshit are not tolerated here, so better luck next time.
this is more likely a false attribution by the Mossad 8200 gang - deception, false flag attributions, assassination by airliner ; all classic Zionist mafia M.O. going way back
We know what crime was committed with Ivermectin at the begin of covid19... One of her 2021 publications which cites One Health (the nightmare of 'health'), mentions a search for Leshmania and ends with : "These results suggest that there is no evidence of circulation of L. infantum in Palotina."
In 2022 she was looking for Zika and found none: "Lack of serological and molecular evidences of Zika virus circulation in non-human primates in three states from Brazil". Her last publication from 2023 was investigation titled "Prevalence and risk factors for Leptospira spp. in dairy cattle in western Paraná, Brazil".
Every single one of these parasitic diseases shows up in connection with covid19... Maybe not relevant, just noticing it..
I do believe those injected, can be 'driven' into suicide, like MANY after multiple covid shots, including my own family member!!!
Our British 77th brigade were sent to cover up evidence of any skulduggery that might be apparent following the mysterious deaths of SEVEN Cancer scientists who were visiting Brazil, on a plane that crashed. Apparently, they were on their way to a convention to release news of a new CANCER TREATMENT that might have ended Cancer. Not the sort of news Big Pharma wants to get out when considering their greed for profit over human wellbeing!.
The WHO is now totally corrupt and preys on profits made from drugs, injections and medicines that supposedly cure the diseases they modify to intensify the consequences by Gain of Function laboratory experiments. The net result = release the 'improved' disease into the population and pretend to have invented a profitable cure, which needs to be taken frequently, A fortune is made!
The rest of the planet already knows that Bill Gates bought the WHO and it became a corrupt machine to depopulate the planet for excess profits. The unelected WHO is now finished and of no interest in assisting in human health!
"There's no profit in healthy people"! = Big Pharma's motto! Join the dots and work it out.
The like of Pfizer still enjoy ZERO LIABILITY for these injected poisons. How can this be feasible?
Unjabbed Mick (UK) I'll live longer without Big Pharma's lies and sinister and murderous behaviour!
I think it's some sort of bizarre work policy where they're required to disclose who they work for in some way. Probably to avoid lawsuits as a result of pretending to be someone qualified and getting someone killed as a result, I'm guessing?
When news of this crash came out it was reported on alternative media that a couple of the doctors on board were whistleblowers and were on their way to report their findings about Pfizer’s death jabs…if, as you are reporting, this crash occurred because the pilot was deliberately causing the spin, it begs the question of what did *they* have on the pilot or was the threat of the death of his family the motivation for his suicidal behavior. So many dead whistleblowers, so many Elite murderers…
I did ask myself motive, or intent. There was one former military guy on board, Miguel Arcanjo Rodridues Junior, but that isn't enough by itself.
There's a lot of things... odd about this plane crash. Why so many medical personnel? Why aren't the blackbox recordings public? Why would a pilot with 10 years worth of experience make a rookie mistake and then make a full developed spin worse? Why was a lawyer who helped passengers against airline companies onboard?
There was more I wanted to cover, but I couldn't streamline it within the article.
Have a look at Rebel Patient substack, re de-icer "inoperable" July 2023, plus comments.
I was wondering about that as well. Also, he does have a co-pilot. Is there any possibility of remote controlling a plane?
Remote controlled aircraft (as in, fully fledged aircraft) have been around since as early as the 1960s (see 'Operation Northwoods' for a prime example).
It is also well known hackers can hack planes and control them using nothing more than a smartphone:
https://www.pcmag.com/news/hacker-demonstrates-remote-plane-hijacking-using-android-app
However it would be extremely difficult to use a smartphone from the ground against a flying plane, due to the range (17,000ft + horizontal distance) and speed (147 miles+) of the craft. You'd be most likely out of signal range, so if that was how it was performed, you're looking at dedicated broadcasting equipment.
Unfortunately, there isn't any way for me to prove it was remote controlled or hijacked, just short of obtaining the black box recordings with the pilot saying something like 'the plane is ignoring my controls' or something.
Found it
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1827992555637608614?t=sL9dNj1fOSMa_auNeJWR9A&s=19
Cheers, that's very helpful information. Incidentally I read, that a whistleblower chemtrail pilot said, that most of the poison-planes are actually remote controlled and Flyer without any crew. There is a Video of him I haven't had the time to watch yet, I will look for the link.
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Nice write up Underdog. One thing that I have noted is that I am unable to find a record of that conference, which is highly irregular. Usually there would be a conference website and some documentation online (program, registration etc). In addition, the make up of the people that were on that plane is not of the same make up as you would expect for a cancer conference. No senior cancer doctors and the only senior doctor was a paediatrician. For an ovarian cancer conference that would make no sense.
Somebody is telling porkies.
Per earlier commentary, the Lancet claims the other doctors travelled either by other planes or by car.
The claim there was a cancer conference comes from Dr Lucian Lucchesi (A.K.A. Lucian Lucchesi Fernandes de Oliveira) quoted in the Lancet (https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2824%2901747-1) and 'Oncology News Central' (https://www.oncologynewscentral.com/article/two-oncology-residents-among-dead-in-plane-crash).
Whilst I could confirm AstraZeneca do operate in Curitiba, like yourself I could not find evidence of the conference. From what little I could piece together, the information was only sent out via email, so you would have needed to have been on the recipient's list.
Curiously, Lucian Lucchesi is also based at Unioeste -- where many of those dead professors are from. https://www.unioeste.br/portal/prograd-outros/cursos-campus-todos/cascavelcursos?campi=0&curso=CSC0056
I had thought about emailing him but I found most folks in Brazil do not respond to folks who don't speak Portuguese. I'm also not sure if he'd divulge anything. He has an email address but I did not submit any inquiries.
Pretty much anybody who has published in oncology in Brazil speaks English, so this shouldn't be a problem
I'll see if I can email him next week, but I'm skeptical of the benefit.
I'm not sure he'd reply to lil' ol' me, my email reach rate is pretty bad. I wouldn't know what (or how) to ask him - "demanding" proof the conference exists seems pretty confrontational, and if I ask informally he'd likely only repeat what he's already told other media outlets, which isn't much benefit from a journalistic standpoint ('after all, don't you trust a highly qualified oncologist to tell the truth?').
My other thoughts are, asking for proof implies suspicion, and he may feel spooked instead. And if he was willing to attend an AstraZeneca conference, I'm not sure he'd be on our side of the debate. I can't just go 'oh hi, I'm here to investigate AstraZeneca who've probably paid you and/or treated you well, do you have any documents I could use to expose them?'.
TL;DR: I don't know how to justify the demand for proof the conference existed without basically getting the door shut in my face.
No just ask if there are any more details about the conference as you're a journalist looking into the situation and have been unable to find those details.
It had an anti-stall stick pusher:
https://www.aeroknow.xyz/review/show/5454
And sophisticated ice detection & antiice systems:
https://www.flycoglobal.com/atr-72-500-ice-protection/
If antiice fails and you do nothing the ice builds gradually and you need to feed in more and more power to maintain airspeed. Eventually you cannot add any more and start descending or mushing, and the stall speed goes up. You would know something has gone wrong as you cannot maintain level flight.
I've done dozens of glider spins & stalls, and real world light aircraft stalls. They do regular simulator drills. Most stable aircraft will take themselves out of a spin just by letting go of all the controls.
They may have got disoriented & panicked, but it looks more like mechanical failure. It almost looked like a flat spin, very weird.
I intentionally gave the pilot the benefit of the doubt by assuming there was no automatic rectification. In the Norway accident, the anti-icing systems didn't work, and in the ATR icing paper I provided, it states the de-icing system isn't sufficient to prevent or address 'glaze icing'.
That said, if the pilot had simply called ATC, declared an issue/emergency, and announced they were dropping to 14,000ft, the ice would have melted. I think there's supposed to be a checklist rule that when you're losing speed when you shouldn't be, you're supposed to find the reason why before you take any preventative actions.
"looks more like mechanical failure"
I considered some possibilities. So the most absurd was a missile strike on the engine; but in the video none of the engines are on fire or smoking. Other variations included explosives, but again, the hull *seems* intact in the videos. Not included in the article was an image from an elderly couple on the plane minutes prior; they don't look panicked and everything seems normal.
I also considered 'icing freeze' on say, the tail rudder, but if you check the icing notes, ice builds up at the front of the craft, not the back. Even if that occurred, it still wouldn't explain the stall that led to it. There's two key failures: the sudden pitch up, and the lack of a rudder exit on spin.
I couldn't find any visual information for flat spins, but from what I understand (I could be mistaken, I don't fly), they only occur if the pilot does literally the opposite of what's required to get out of a fully developed spin. Getting there still requires a stall.
A note to US military shills who are pretending not to be pilots: if you're going to shill it is a plane accident, actually read the article first, given I've already refuted a number of blatant lies.
Claiming the anti-icing system failing would have crashed the plane is false: I cited an anti-icing incident with similar flight ceiling characteristics with the same plane model in Norway (which is a very cold place) and *that plane did not crash*. No stall, no fully developed spin, no crash.
I appreciate the US military are at least confirming their involvement in this incident if they feel that strongly about shilling that it is an accident. That said, shills that peddle bullshit are not tolerated here, so better luck next time.
A "Ron Brown" plane crash.
this is more likely a false attribution by the Mossad 8200 gang - deception, false flag attributions, assassination by airliner ; all classic Zionist mafia M.O. going way back
Just checked one of the passengers Silvia Cristina Osaki, who was specialized in parasites.. :
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Silvia-Osaki-2
We know what crime was committed with Ivermectin at the begin of covid19... One of her 2021 publications which cites One Health (the nightmare of 'health'), mentions a search for Leshmania and ends with : "These results suggest that there is no evidence of circulation of L. infantum in Palotina."
In 2022 she was looking for Zika and found none: "Lack of serological and molecular evidences of Zika virus circulation in non-human primates in three states from Brazil". Her last publication from 2023 was investigation titled "Prevalence and risk factors for Leptospira spp. in dairy cattle in western Paraná, Brazil".
Every single one of these parasitic diseases shows up in connection with covid19... Maybe not relevant, just noticing it..
I do believe those injected, can be 'driven' into suicide, like MANY after multiple covid shots, including my own family member!!!
Our British 77th brigade were sent to cover up evidence of any skulduggery that might be apparent following the mysterious deaths of SEVEN Cancer scientists who were visiting Brazil, on a plane that crashed. Apparently, they were on their way to a convention to release news of a new CANCER TREATMENT that might have ended Cancer. Not the sort of news Big Pharma wants to get out when considering their greed for profit over human wellbeing!.
The WHO is now totally corrupt and preys on profits made from drugs, injections and medicines that supposedly cure the diseases they modify to intensify the consequences by Gain of Function laboratory experiments. The net result = release the 'improved' disease into the population and pretend to have invented a profitable cure, which needs to be taken frequently, A fortune is made!
The rest of the planet already knows that Bill Gates bought the WHO and it became a corrupt machine to depopulate the planet for excess profits. The unelected WHO is now finished and of no interest in assisting in human health!
"There's no profit in healthy people"! = Big Pharma's motto! Join the dots and work it out.
The like of Pfizer still enjoy ZERO LIABILITY for these injected poisons. How can this be feasible?
Unjabbed Mick (UK) I'll live longer without Big Pharma's lies and sinister and murderous behaviour!
Strange, even 'The Lancet' publishes: "Brazilian city mourns doctors killed in plane crash"
saying :
Four doctors were killed in the crash of August 9 on the outskirts of São Paulo. Lise Alves reports from São Paulo.
I feel like any time you see mainstream media getting simple details completely wrong, something fishy is going on.
Weird how this happens and Trump plane has a forced landing hours later. 🤔
Both areas had jet stream abnormalities like all the other coincidences.
China runs Brazil now. You can’t trust anything anymore.
Why am l not surprised 🤔
I think it's some sort of bizarre work policy where they're required to disclose who they work for in some way. Probably to avoid lawsuits as a result of pretending to be someone qualified and getting someone killed as a result, I'm guessing?
Or they are trolls.
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