Lol, UD. You will not win this one with Georgie&Donny. True believers will hide, obfuscate, muddy the waters, and move the goalposts. I can buy it on covid-19 since there is some evidence that the seasonal flu and colds were conflated to be covid (the hinky quick tests and pcr for example). Virus non-believers hit a brick wall when it comes to bacteriophages. Russia developed a whole field of medicine around bacteriophages as a mode of treatement, in lieu of antiobiotics, for bacterial illnesses such as strep. I guess electron microscope imaging is fake too. Terrain theory, while interesting, does not hold up otherwise bioweapons would be useless.
Another good article from you! Thanks for breaking it down. The SV40 sequences are scary. A whole new generation burdened with that abomination and adenoviruses thrown in for good measure. Times like these make me realize Bill Cooper, Alex Jones, and others who were called crazy conspiracy theorists were right.
I found your substack after I subscribed to Edward's.
I don't have issues with people saying they don't think SARS-CoV-2 is real - there's plenty of debate space there. I don't have issues with people suggesting particular events are synthetic, or bioweapons, or even the (in my mind, absurd) notion of natural origins. If a man wishes to hold the view reality is unreal, then by all means they hold whatever opinion they like.
What I do have issue with is fraud. Especially grandiose, unsubstantiated claims with no evidence, or contradictory reasoning being presented and failing basic challenge. The very kind that besets industry, government, media and those damn propaganda shills, where repetition, evasion and spammy replies overcompensate for a lack of hard evidence or logic.
I could have even entertained a concept that illness was spiritual, albeit more for philosophy, but illness 'because reasons' isn't a valid substitute.
I did not sense the debate was genuine, with terms horrendously misused. I was asking for evidence and presenting reasonable challenges that weren't addressed.
Did they genuinely think so many billions of people fake viral illnesses or viral infections? They didn't answer 'yes' because they knew it was an absurd position to hold, becoming less and less defensible. And they didn't answer 'no' because it would have refuted their own position.
Red flags when someone invokes 'experience' or 'expertise' because it's the kind of 'appeal to [unchallenged] authority' fallacy media pundits use, especially when lacking substance. When asked for any one example of their work, supposedly 25 years produces no evidence, nothing of merit, no frame of reference. And the misuse of terminology for a supposed specialist a giant red flag.
"The SV40 sequences are scary. A whole new generation burdened with that abomination and adenoviruses thrown in for good measure."
The fact is they know the adenovirus serotypes 5 and 26 specifically are harmful. Out of all of the possible serotypes (7 is one more), they picked the worst options. The ones they knew would cause cancer.
This is why I have to call it mass murder. There's no way you accidentally pick the three most dangerous virus subtypes (5, 7 and 26) out of a dangerous virus group (adenoviruses) and not notice what you're doing.
Well said. Honestly I stopped reading after your third response and the constant emotional replies. I recognized the argument for what it was. You were courteous in your response.
Yeah the adenoviruses show a malice that is highly disturbing. I remember listening to Alex Jones back in 2010 talking about a shot that people will be forced to get. It will be a bioweapons of some sort and here we go. These people are truly evil. Hurting children is my red line. For almost a half century, children in the West were given relatively idyllic lives. Now ideologues are going after children in every aspect to destroy future generations. I will not go back to the days of Baal worship and consigning children to the flames.
I saw that headline. Florida has a Grand Jury empanelled investiagting this as well. I'm more hopeful about Texas really because an AG can do far more than a Grand Jury because of the Federal Court powers. You and many others have done the Lord's work in exposing these people. Even if all we can do is wreck Pfizer, ModeRNA, Astra-Zeneca, and J&J, that should be enough to provide a respite. I'm just cynical about anyone suffering consequences.
Hiya, I'd just like to raise awareness that like all other viruses there's no evidence that adenoviruses exist. What they are injecting is some toxic cell culture contents, maybe with some altered sequences of RNA or DNA. There is no evidence anywhere that these sequences form entities that are replication competent, pathogenic and infectious
of course I am not defending vaccines - the contents of them are clearly toxic and harmful to people, you haven't presented any evidence that it's caused by 'viruses'. What are said to be viruses with no evidence whatsoever are cell cultures
It is a very important point to establish whether the vaccines are necessary AT ALL so any future unnecessary harms can be avoided. Disease is not caused by viruses so NO vaccines are necessary and should be stopped immediately because of all the damage they are causing. Where did I suggest I was defending vaccines?
In fact, to discredit your pharmaceutical funded absurdism further; you're accusing every single scientist who deals with viruses as being dishonest, you're declaring every biosecure laboratory of being fraudulent, including all associated costs in building and maintaining them.
You're claiming everyone who gets ill from a viral infection, from those who experience colds, flu and hepatitis A, including those whose immune systems are progressively destroyed by HIV are frauds, fakers, hacks. You've have to accuse animals of pretending to have viral illnesses, to insist FIV does not exist.
You're suggesting a fraud that requires literally everyone to be a conspirator, from the ill patients to the healthcare professionals, from biowarfare engineers to animals, from the electron microscope recordings to the engineers that work on such software and hardware. Entire industries in virology, bioweapons research, medicine have to all be fraudulent hacks for your unevidenced, poorly established theory to retain any semblance of credibility.
And I am sure you will regurgitate your script and reference some invented, unevidenced nonsense to try to desperately explain away this poorly thought out discredit attack of yours (which boils down to 'but you haven't convinced *me* it's real'), but it is a particularly weak Karl Popper argument, 'I haven't seen any black swans so black swans aren't real', a tragic variant of 'Last Thursdayism'.
So I ask again, why are you trying to advocate such a garbage theory here?
You mean the same Montagnier who you wrote claimed that HIV exists: "Luc Montagnier took a sample from one of these patients (BRU) and in 1983 claimed that he had purified it and seen HIV."
Your statements contradict each other. Which did he claim? Viral origins or nutrition? And where's your evidence of said claim?
All the animal experiments on transmission of illness have to resort to injecting cell cultures up the nose or into the abdomen, illness cannot be transferred by aerosols or contact. No controls are done.
Of course people get symptoms and sickness that are said to be a 'viral' 'disease' but how can it be shown for sure what causes the symptoms?
I was part of the deluded scientists until I looked into the original papers in virology such as Peebles and Enders in 1954 and the measles 'virus' I wasn't part of a conspiracy or fraud - I just hadn't looked into the methodologies .
"the original papers in virology such as Peebles and Enders in 1954"
Electron microscopy wasn't available back then. Paper is out-of-date and the understanding of viruses has evolved since then. Is that it, you looked at an old paper, thought it was bad quality and thus decided to reject any and all other pieces of information?
We can visualise the virus using electron microscopy. Pfizer literally admits to engineering them, and technology has advanced to the point RNA sequences can be generated in software first, then engineered into a virus by genetic engineering after.
I cannot believe I am having such an absurd debate with a hack.
Of course Pfizer admits to engineering them-that will keep the virus narrative going- do we believe anything they say?
How do you know the sequences can be engineered into viruses?
The 'bad quality' paper is the one everyone refers to whenever they mention the measles virus -as proof that it is the causative agent of measles symptoms.
I was a biomedical sciencist studying pathology and cancer and looking down light and electron microscopes for 25 years
Visualisng a thing under a microscope does not tell us what they are or what they do.
Frankly I don't know why you're on this Substack given it makes clear we view the viruses as very much real, and I have a low tolerance for propaganda gaslighting by 'X is a hoax' crowd.
Lol, UD. You will not win this one with Georgie&Donny. True believers will hide, obfuscate, muddy the waters, and move the goalposts. I can buy it on covid-19 since there is some evidence that the seasonal flu and colds were conflated to be covid (the hinky quick tests and pcr for example). Virus non-believers hit a brick wall when it comes to bacteriophages. Russia developed a whole field of medicine around bacteriophages as a mode of treatement, in lieu of antiobiotics, for bacterial illnesses such as strep. I guess electron microscope imaging is fake too. Terrain theory, while interesting, does not hold up otherwise bioweapons would be useless.
Another good article from you! Thanks for breaking it down. The SV40 sequences are scary. A whole new generation burdened with that abomination and adenoviruses thrown in for good measure. Times like these make me realize Bill Cooper, Alex Jones, and others who were called crazy conspiracy theorists were right.
I found your substack after I subscribed to Edward's.
I don't have issues with people saying they don't think SARS-CoV-2 is real - there's plenty of debate space there. I don't have issues with people suggesting particular events are synthetic, or bioweapons, or even the (in my mind, absurd) notion of natural origins. If a man wishes to hold the view reality is unreal, then by all means they hold whatever opinion they like.
What I do have issue with is fraud. Especially grandiose, unsubstantiated claims with no evidence, or contradictory reasoning being presented and failing basic challenge. The very kind that besets industry, government, media and those damn propaganda shills, where repetition, evasion and spammy replies overcompensate for a lack of hard evidence or logic.
I could have even entertained a concept that illness was spiritual, albeit more for philosophy, but illness 'because reasons' isn't a valid substitute.
I did not sense the debate was genuine, with terms horrendously misused. I was asking for evidence and presenting reasonable challenges that weren't addressed.
Did they genuinely think so many billions of people fake viral illnesses or viral infections? They didn't answer 'yes' because they knew it was an absurd position to hold, becoming less and less defensible. And they didn't answer 'no' because it would have refuted their own position.
Red flags when someone invokes 'experience' or 'expertise' because it's the kind of 'appeal to [unchallenged] authority' fallacy media pundits use, especially when lacking substance. When asked for any one example of their work, supposedly 25 years produces no evidence, nothing of merit, no frame of reference. And the misuse of terminology for a supposed specialist a giant red flag.
"The SV40 sequences are scary. A whole new generation burdened with that abomination and adenoviruses thrown in for good measure."
The fact is they know the adenovirus serotypes 5 and 26 specifically are harmful. Out of all of the possible serotypes (7 is one more), they picked the worst options. The ones they knew would cause cancer.
This is why I have to call it mass murder. There's no way you accidentally pick the three most dangerous virus subtypes (5, 7 and 26) out of a dangerous virus group (adenoviruses) and not notice what you're doing.
I plan to rag on the mRNA shots in due time.
Well said. Honestly I stopped reading after your third response and the constant emotional replies. I recognized the argument for what it was. You were courteous in your response.
Yeah the adenoviruses show a malice that is highly disturbing. I remember listening to Alex Jones back in 2010 talking about a shot that people will be forced to get. It will be a bioweapons of some sort and here we go. These people are truly evil. Hurting children is my red line. For almost a half century, children in the West were given relatively idyllic lives. Now ideologues are going after children in every aspect to destroy future generations. I will not go back to the days of Baal worship and consigning children to the flames.
We're slowly making progress.
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/paxton-launches-investigation-gain-function-research-and-misrepresentations-covid-19-vaccine
I can't help but feel the AG has read The Daily Beagle's work re: GOF, Pfizer mutating viruses and clinical data fraud.
I hope other States join in with their respective laws.
I do still need to draft the lawsuit.
I saw that headline. Florida has a Grand Jury empanelled investiagting this as well. I'm more hopeful about Texas really because an AG can do far more than a Grand Jury because of the Federal Court powers. You and many others have done the Lord's work in exposing these people. Even if all we can do is wreck Pfizer, ModeRNA, Astra-Zeneca, and J&J, that should be enough to provide a respite. I'm just cynical about anyone suffering consequences.
The wheels of justice grind slow, but they grind fine.
And you've got me helping out.
I helped nix Jeffrey Epstein when he wiggled out of the Florida case all those years ago.
Albert Bourla is not the man he thinks he is.
Also, it’s been known since 2006 that the adenovirus vectors can cause thrombocytopenia.
https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/109/7/2832/125650/Adenovirus-induced-thrombocytopenia-the-role-of
Hiya, I'd just like to raise awareness that like all other viruses there's no evidence that adenoviruses exist. What they are injecting is some toxic cell culture contents, maybe with some altered sequences of RNA or DNA. There is no evidence anywhere that these sequences form entities that are replication competent, pathogenic and infectious
You haven't presented any evidence they are injecting "some toxic cell culture contents", and seems like a terrible discredit-by-association attack.
What I find curious is you're trying to suggest the adenoviruses that cause harms don't exist in defence of the vaccines. Why is that?
of course I am not defending vaccines - the contents of them are clearly toxic and harmful to people, you haven't presented any evidence that it's caused by 'viruses'. What are said to be viruses with no evidence whatsoever are cell cultures
It is a very important point to establish whether the vaccines are necessary AT ALL so any future unnecessary harms can be avoided. Disease is not caused by viruses so NO vaccines are necessary and should be stopped immediately because of all the damage they are causing. Where did I suggest I was defending vaccines?
Here is the evidence on the unnecessary smallpox vaccine and the harms it caused https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/lets-hope-the-monkey-pox-nonsense
The unnecessary MMR and the autism it causes https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/mmr-and-autism
The complete lack of evidence that viruses exist and cause disease https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/seeing-is-believing
In fact, to discredit your pharmaceutical funded absurdism further; you're accusing every single scientist who deals with viruses as being dishonest, you're declaring every biosecure laboratory of being fraudulent, including all associated costs in building and maintaining them.
You're claiming everyone who gets ill from a viral infection, from those who experience colds, flu and hepatitis A, including those whose immune systems are progressively destroyed by HIV are frauds, fakers, hacks. You've have to accuse animals of pretending to have viral illnesses, to insist FIV does not exist.
You're suggesting a fraud that requires literally everyone to be a conspirator, from the ill patients to the healthcare professionals, from biowarfare engineers to animals, from the electron microscope recordings to the engineers that work on such software and hardware. Entire industries in virology, bioweapons research, medicine have to all be fraudulent hacks for your unevidenced, poorly established theory to retain any semblance of credibility.
And I am sure you will regurgitate your script and reference some invented, unevidenced nonsense to try to desperately explain away this poorly thought out discredit attack of yours (which boils down to 'but you haven't convinced *me* it's real'), but it is a particularly weak Karl Popper argument, 'I haven't seen any black swans so black swans aren't real', a tragic variant of 'Last Thursdayism'.
So I ask again, why are you trying to advocate such a garbage theory here?
Even Montagnier admitted good nutrition could both prevent and cure 'AIDS'- indeed, no need for $mulit billion dollar HIV industry at all https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/the-importance-of-intellectual-freedom
You mean the same Montagnier who you wrote claimed that HIV exists: "Luc Montagnier took a sample from one of these patients (BRU) and in 1983 claimed that he had purified it and seen HIV."
Your statements contradict each other. Which did he claim? Viral origins or nutrition? And where's your evidence of said claim?
All the animal experiments on transmission of illness have to resort to injecting cell cultures up the nose or into the abdomen, illness cannot be transferred by aerosols or contact. No controls are done.
Of course people get symptoms and sickness that are said to be a 'viral' 'disease' but how can it be shown for sure what causes the symptoms?
"All the animal experiments on transmission of illness have to resort to injecting cell cultures up the nose or into the abdomen"
Provably false. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tXqvliSch3Y/VWZwY4F4xRI/AAAAAAAAE-Q/yp04yXlvHO0/s1600/Injection.jpg
"illness cannot be transferred by aerosols or contact"
Claim proven false by Louis Pasteur's experiment disproving spontaneous germ theory using the beef broth experiment.
"No controls are done."
According to your unevidenced claims.
"but how can it be shown for sure what causes the symptoms?"
Electron microscopy showing the virus infecting the cells.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzPKiFToItA
What I linked earlier.
All your arguments boil down to 'but you have no evidence of that', ignoring presented evidence and are extremely uncompelling.
I was part of the deluded scientists until I looked into the original papers in virology such as Peebles and Enders in 1954 and the measles 'virus' I wasn't part of a conspiracy or fraud - I just hadn't looked into the methodologies .
something I see you're still unwilling to do.
your loss
"I was part of the deluded scientists"
Which scientists? What profession? Studying what?
"the original papers in virology such as Peebles and Enders in 1954"
Electron microscopy wasn't available back then. Paper is out-of-date and the understanding of viruses has evolved since then. Is that it, you looked at an old paper, thought it was bad quality and thus decided to reject any and all other pieces of information?
We can visualise the virus using electron microscopy. Pfizer literally admits to engineering them, and technology has advanced to the point RNA sequences can be generated in software first, then engineered into a virus by genetic engineering after.
I cannot believe I am having such an absurd debate with a hack.
Of course Pfizer admits to engineering them-that will keep the virus narrative going- do we believe anything they say?
How do you know the sequences can be engineered into viruses?
The 'bad quality' paper is the one everyone refers to whenever they mention the measles virus -as proof that it is the causative agent of measles symptoms.
I was a biomedical sciencist studying pathology and cancer and looking down light and electron microscopes for 25 years
Visualisng a thing under a microscope does not tell us what they are or what they do.
" What are said to be viruses with no evidence whatsoever are cell cultures"
Of which you have not presented any evidence for.
"Disease is not caused by viruses so NO vaccines are necessary"
The fact you're unaware of bacteria, parasites, fungal spores and other pathogens is alarming.
In terms of viruses we have electron microscopy showing them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzPKiFToItA
Frankly I don't know why you're on this Substack given it makes clear we view the viruses as very much real, and I have a low tolerance for propaganda gaslighting by 'X is a hoax' crowd.
again where did I say bacteria aren't real? jeez
and how do you know what you see on EM are viruses- you can't show pathogenicity- they're embedded in resin.
I though you might have a open mind, I thought wrong
Open mind does not mean someone gullible to untruth.
"where did I say bacteria aren't real?"
I said the fact you didn't mention them as a cause of disease was suspicious and suggests unfamiliarity with the subject of pathogens.
"they're embedded in resin."
You obviously haven't watched the video as those are mobile.
things may be mobile in a cell culture - how do you know they are viruses?