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mejbcart's avatar

I'd add, maybe it was somewhere here already, so just in case, STOP all WARS, instead invest in good technologies supporting HUMANITY, support real HEALTH with absolutely no GMO's, STOP genetically modifying this world, including humans!!! Give young people good education so that they can build this country for the future of everyone, and not the few.

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The Underdog's avatar

Concur wholeheartedly. This article is mainly to show there's plenty of ideas on how to approach this.

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Edgar's avatar

All of these would be good ideas, if you could make them happen. It isn't just Israel you are up against. The governments of the entire West will have to fall to make this happen. They need to. They are just as corrupt and evil as the government of Israel. It will take all of us to make that happen.

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The Underdog's avatar

Interestingly we're seeing the tide turn with governments.

Slovenia has done a complete arms embargo.

Norway has divested from Israeli military stocks.

Germany is now withholding arms that 'might be involved in Gaza' (seems a bit weaselly to me but whatever).

Netherlands classified Israel as a national security threat.

There's calls within the UN for some sort of blockade or embargo. I've even seen calls for military action. A lot of governments are trying to work out what it is they need to do.

The US and UK are definitely compromised but the UK's Keir Starmer isn't going to retain power for long. The Palestine Action protests are growing by the day (Keir had to arrest over 400 people) along with the protests against the border invasion. Keir has pissed off both the left and the right. Australia saw a purportedly 330,000 strong protest against the genocide (by my estimate at least 10,000 were visible), so even the foothold within the Western countries is slipping.

Even the rabidly pro-Zionist elements within the Republican party are saying Israel is becoming a toxic ideology. The pro-Zionist Democrats are silent but you can sense they're freaking out as well. The Trump-Epstein ties are near daily and even South Park seems to be mirroring the allegations covered here. The Zionist stranglehold is not going to last.

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Edgar's avatar

Sounds very hopeful. We'll see.

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kevin's avatar

i think this might be an earlier quite from your good-self

“a nation exists to do what the nation does”

The system isn't broken its working just they way its meant to.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

the only thing I could do was stop buying dates from Israel. If Beagle runs for president I will vote for him. Otherwise, I will not vote at all, since they are all puppets on the strings of the overlords.

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The Underdog's avatar

One of my running jokes has been 'Vote Underdog for President'. You would have liked my tongue-in-cheek proposals: one was to deport the entirety of Congress and replace them with cardboard cutouts. It is my opinion the cutouts would do a better job.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

excellent proposal. They will always be present, cost nothing, and won't blab nonsense. They cannot do any worse than what is sitting now. They would not listen to the Zionist overlords. Of course, you would need someone to watch who is voting !

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AussieManDust's avatar

OR we could simply nuke Jeurasalem. Glass it. 👏 Sorted.

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The Underdog's avatar

I understand people's anger like this. I do. It is infuriating to see an entire nation stoop to genocide, and the first inclination a lot of people have is 'bomb them back!'. But I am a man who believes you must try to demonstrate your principles by action: I cannot say I oppose genocide, and then advocate for a retaliatory mass genocide in response. That is not my way.

I spent 3 days on the military portion of this article debating the consequences between a like-for-like and a full force deterrence response. I do not consider war proposals lightly, or as glib remarks. I know full well at the end of people - including children - could die, if military proposals are implemented. Every life is important to me.

Yes, you could nuke the child murdering psychopaths, but in the process you'd have to become one of them to do so. And that means they will have won. I will not stoop to their level and I will demonstrate it is possible to win fights without massacring large quantities of people.

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AussieManDust's avatar

Not according to Rand Corporation Game Theory. And this is the theoretical backdrop to US Foriegn Affairs. Bomb b4 they bomb, make peace, then bomb again. Israel is the tail of the US dog.

There's a great scene in a late Star Trek movie; the Romulans made the error of destroying a Vulcan ship because the Romulans are arrogant predators. So the Vulcans destroyed every Romulan ship they encountered, until the Romulans sued for peace. Meekness must NEVER hide weakness. ... glass 👏

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The Underdog's avatar

RAND corporation incorrectly believed they could starve out Russia and they've been losing Ukrainian territory as Russia beats RAND economically. I wouldn't trust those slimy RAND fuckers as far as I could throw them.

Strength does not involve indiscriminately nuking everything that moves. It is about having the damn integrity to do the right thing. I will not stoop to retaliatory genocide! If America put the same level of economic force against Israel as they did supporting Israel, that nation would implode and you wouldn't even need to fire a goddamn shot.

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The Underdog's avatar

I think I'll stick this up on my Substack feed, thanks for that.

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The Underdog's avatar

Oh dear, did I upset the mass child murderers with my proposals?

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