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Mick From Hooe (UK)'s avatar

They're all pre-selected to continue the Elite's (WEF) vax & de-population program! Re-establish LIABILITY for vax makers (NOT GOVERNMENTS). It would make this farce disappear. Oh! The "miraculous" deadly vax appeared so quickly; my hunch it was being created simultaneously in the lab adjacent to the Gain of Function lab. Mick from Hooe (UK) looking for Adolf Schwab!

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I would go a step further and say this mass murder campaign needs to be treated as a criminal action.

Liability is for civil cases, where a company is negligent, rather than outright fraudulent and evil. No amount of money will bring the dead back.

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Can't argue with your suggestion except for the reality of finding the responsible individuals within each deadly vax manufacturer? Obviously, the Top Dog would be great, but Bourla is probably 'bullet proof' as far as proving his role in the murders? Mick from Hooe (Unjabbed and looking for Adolf Schwab.)

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What you refer to there I believe is known as a "secret ballot" (which for me is a type of "black box voting"). The Quakers, some centuries ago, suggested that it would be the future of voting. They even envisaged a European state using it.

The EU uses "secret ballots" often (see: https://www.euractiv.com/section/eu-priorities-2020/news/parliament-to-use-secret-ballot-in-vote-on-eu-budget/) and contrary to the idealism that it'd be used as a shroud by those who get paid to vote 'the correct way' by hiding their actions from the lobbyists (who note, do know how to count, and thus any number of votes less than what they paid for indicates they have a traitor in their ranks)... it is instead used to hide corrupt, cowardly actions from the public. You need only see what direction the EU took when it came to Article 11 and 13 (rebranded Article 13 and 17).

I write this unironically as a person behind a pseudonym: secrecy is a shroud often exploited by the evil, and rarely by the good. There is a difference, of course, between privacy (wanting to keep vital information about your person out of the public) and secrecy (hiding potentially malevolent actions).

The TIPP and TPP were secret. The CPTPP is also. Secrecy, with the exception of resistance movements, rarely results in anything good. Open voting has been beneficial because it has allowed the public to see how lobbyist money influences voting and action by representatives.

Instead, I am of the view representative democracy itself is dead (https://thedailybeagle.substack.com/p/why-representative-democracy-is-dead) and I advocate instead Constitutional Direct Democracy (https://thedailybeagle.substack.com/p/is-constitutional-direct-democracy).

What has happened is too much power is concentrated in the hands of too few, and thus they are easily corruptible, the system easily gameable, and any 'good' elements easy to nullify or eliminate.

Open source software - effectively a type of 'direct democracy' - has proven the most successful in terms of software reach and expansion. Switzerland - which has avoided two major world wars - has Semi-Direct Democracy, although I consider this a misnomer as they still have representatives.

Some of the most referenced materials out there are crowdsourced - Wikipedia, Stack Exchange, TVTropes, even Substack - although admittedly quality does vary, survival of the fittest applies, and usually only good quality material survives.

Indeed, the Internet has brought higher literacy rates, more opportunities for learning, greater opportunities for careers (my own case in point). Crowdsourced materials - again, direct democracy - are outperforming proprietary and closed source materials.

The other risk with secret ballots is they're difficult to verify, either by yourself or a third party. If no-one knows who voted for what, how do you know your vote wasn't switched for something else? How does no outsider know your vote wasn't switched?

Personally, I would incline myself to the opposite angle. Make voting transparent. Names to what they voted for. It would make fraud absurdly easy to detect (mass produced fraudulent ballots are cheaper than buying people to vote).

In-fact, I would put forward the unusual argument - so what if people sell their vote for money? It is their vote. They pay taxes, they pay the politicians, why shouldn't the voter get paid? If they wanted to vote for the Corruption party, they would have done so anyway (the merits/bonuses would just be offered in some other form). You can't meaningfully prevent it, so don't. Prevent fraud instead.

If voters really hated corruption, no amount of money would sway them. Of course, I do have a conflict of interest here - I support Constitutional Direct Democracy, which calls for the public to be responsible for their own actions, rather than shepherded by the State.

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There is no scenario where secret ballots work.

And I reject your assertion all open votes would be bought. I know my certainly wouldn't.

And remember, it can't be that effective - given the forgeries in ballots.

You can't verify forgeries in a secret ballot.

Citizen effort exposed the dead voters.

How are you supposed to know the dead voters if it is secret?

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